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Job Creators Say “Enough is Enough” to Barbara Boxer’s Job-Killing Policies

Tuesday, August 10th, 2010

U.S. Chamber of Commerce, California Manufacturers and Technology Association and Bakersfield Chamber of Commerce Endorse Carly Fiorina

BAKERSFIELD, CA - During a press conference at ARRC Technology in Bakersfield, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the California Manufacturers and Technology Association (CMTA) and the California Chamber of Commerce today continued their two-day statewide tour rejecting Barbara Boxer’s 28-year record of failed leadership and urging Californians to instead support Carly Fiorina, a proven, tested leader with a clear plan to create jobs and grow the economy. Fiorina today also earned the endorsement of the Greater Bakersfield Chamber of Commerce (GBCC).

“Carly Fiorina knows firsthand the challenges facing companies across the nation that are struggling in this difficult economy, and she has consistently demonstrated her commitment to advancing policies that support the interests of businesses large and small,” said Bakersfield Chamber of Commerce President and Chief Executive Officer Debra Moreno. “As a U.S. senator, Carly will help produce sustained economic growth and create more jobs, and we are pleased to endorse her candidacy for U.S. Senate.”

The GBCC is a nonprofit association of business people committed to improving the economic climate and quality of life in the greater Bakersfield area. The Chamber represents businesses of all sizes and types and serves its membership of nearly 1,400 members, which together employ some 50,000 employees, by advocating for legislation that supports job creators, providing education opportunities for member companies and promoting the local community and local businesses.

“For 28 long years, Barbara Boxer has failed to fight for jobs, failed to fight for policies that spur economic growth and failed to fight for American companies. Today we are rejecting Boxer’s nearly three decades of failed leadership and antagonism toward California’s businesses,” said U.S. Chamber of Commerce Senior Vice President and National Political Director Bill Miller. “Carly Fiorina, on the other hand, understands firsthand the challenges companies face every day and will fight for the policies in Washington we need so our companies can compete in the global marketplace and so our economy can recover, grow and flourish. That’s the reason we are endorsing Carly Fiorina for U.S. Senate.”

CMTA President Jack Stewart added, “During her nearly three decades in Washington, Barbara Boxer has made it increasingly difficult for manufacturers to do business in the United States by championing higher and higher taxes and stiffer and stiffer regulations. The path down which Boxer has driven our nation is littered with companies that have suffered as a result of these job-killing policies; that’s the reason we’re today charting a new course by endorsing Carly Fiorina for U.S. Senate. As a U.S. senator, Carly will advance policies that encourage economic growth, job creation and a less intrusive federal government in order to foster a business environment in which manufacturers and all California companies can thrive.”

“Carly Fiorina is the pro-business candidate for U.S. Senate. When jobs and the economy are the primary focus of all Californians, we would be well served to have a U.S. senator who has created private-sector jobs, has had to balance budgets and knows how unnecessary government regulation can stifle investment. Carly is a proven leader who will bring common-sense solutions to an out-of-touch political process in Washington,” continued California Chamber of Commerce President and Chief Executive Officer Allan Zaremberg."

“During Barbara Boxer’s 28 years in Washington, our nation’s job creators have suffered under the weight of sky-high taxes and burdensome regulations that make it harder to keep companies here in the United States and employ our fellow Americans. Today, I am standing with these job creators in rejecting Barbara Boxer’s failed leadership and her decades-long record of pressing for job-killing policies,” said Fiorina. “I come from the real world, and I know creating jobs and stimulating economic growth in the real world requires unleashing the talents and energies of California’s workers, small-business owners, innovators and entrepreneurs. If our economy is going to experience a real recovery, then we must send new leaders to Washington who will put job creation and economic growth first; that begins by defeating Barbara Boxer this November.”

Fiorina’s economic growth plan focuses on the principle that lower taxes, fewer burdensome regulations and more innovation will drive our nation’s recovery and growth. Specifically, she is advocating for policy changes that lower taxes, incentivize innovation and allow our nation to fight for every job. Fiorina also today hosted press conferences at Blue Diamond Growers in Sacramento and Renewable Power Solutions in San Jose. Yesterday, the first day of her two-day tour, Fiorina earned the endorsements of the Long Beach Chamber of Commerce and the Fresno Chamber of Commerce.

Fresno Small Business Owner on Why Carly Should Win

Tuesday, August 10th, 2010

Scott Miller, Owner, Gazebo Gardens

I had the pleasure of welcoming senate candidate Carly Fiorina and representatives from the U.S., California and local Fresno Chambers of Commerce, to my nursery today. Gazebo Gardens has been in business for nearly 90 years, and I believe that there has never before been an election more important than this one for California’s small businesses.

There have been so many recent closures in the nursery industry that it sometimes feels like the mom and pop corner nursery has become a thing of the past. But it’s not just the nursery industry—businesses of all kinds are struggling to survive in this tough economy. That is why now, more than ever, it is crucial that we elect leaders who understand that by raising taxes and increasing regulations we are killing small businesses and making it even harder to put people back to work.

Carly understands that, in order to grow our economy, we have to cut taxes, reduce regulations and reward businesses for hiring more people and being successful—not punish them. Carly knows what it takes to create a job and has the real world business experience necessary to get our economy going again. Barbara Boxer, on the other hand, has had 28 years in Washington but only a record of higher spending, more burdensome regulation and a lot of empty talk to show for it.

Defeating Barbara Boxer in November is a matter of great importance for many small business owners up and down the state. I know that, with the help of support of California’s small businesses, we can come together and elect Carly as our next United States Senator.

Job Creators Reject 28 Years of Barbara Boxer’s Failed Leadership, Endorse Carly Fiorina for U.S. Senate

Monday, August 9th, 2010

LONG BEACH, CA – During a press conference at SnugTop, one of the last manufacturers still in business in the Long Beach area, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the California Manufacturers and Technology Association (CMTA) and the California Chamber of Commerce today joined U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina in rejecting Barbara Boxer’s 28 years of failing to stand up for job creators across the nation, as well as in highlighting Fiorina’s plan to create jobs and grow the economy by lowering taxes, fighting for every job and incentivizing innovation. Today’s stop kicks off a two-day statewide tour during which job creators will call on the people of California to replace Barbara Boxer this November.

“For 28 long years, Barbara Boxer has failed to fight for jobs, failed to fight for policies that spur economic growth and failed to fight for American companies. Today we are rejecting Boxer’s nearly three decades of failed leadership and antagonism toward California’s businesses,” said U.S. Chamber of Commerce Senior Vice President and National Political Director Bill Miller. “Carly Fiorina, on the other hand, understands firsthand the challenges companies face every day and will fight for the policies in Washington we need so our companies can compete in the global marketplace and so our economy can recover, grow and flourish. That’s the reason we are endorsing Carly Fiorina for U.S. Senate.”

Founded in 1912, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce today represents more than 3 million businesses and organizations across the United States in pushing for free enterprise, individual freedom and opportunity through national advertising, grassroots advocacy, citizen engagement and research. The Chamber’s goal is to help elect a pro-business Congress and advance legislation that furthers its policy objectives.

“During her nearly three decades in Washington, Barbara Boxer has made it increasingly difficult for manufacturers to do business in the United States by championing higher and higher taxes and stiffer and stiffer regulations. The path down which Boxer has driven our nation is littered with companies that have suffered as a result of these job-killing policies; that’s the reason we’re today charting a new course by endorsing Carly Fiorina for U.S. Senate,” said CMTA President Jack Stewart. “As a U.S. senator, Carly will advance policies that encourage economic growth, job creation and a less intrusive federal government in order to foster a business environment in which manufacturers and all California companies can thrive.”

CMTA’s mission is to improve and enhance a strong business climate for California’s 30,000 manufacturing, processing and technology-based companies. Since 1918, CMTA has worked with state government to develop balanced laws, effective regulations and sound public policies to stimulate economic growth and create new jobs while safeguarding the state’s environmental resources. CMTA represents businesses from the entire manufacturing community – an economic sector that generates more than $250 billion every year and employs more than 1.2 million Californians.

“Carly Fiorina is the pro-business candidate for U.S. Senate. When jobs and the economy are the primary focus of all Californians, we would be well served to have a U.S. senator who has created private-sector jobs, has had to balance budgets and knows how unnecessary government regulation can stifle investment,” said California Chamber of Commerce President and Chief Executive Officer Allan Zaremberg. “Carly is a proven leader who will bring common-sense solutions to an out-of-touch political process in Washington.”

Tracing its roots back to the California State Board of Trade’s establishment in 1890, CalChamber works to make California a better place to do business by giving private-sector employers a voice in state politics and by providing a full range of California-specific products and services. The organization now serves as an advocate for some 15,000 job creators and works to enhance the California economy by making it a better place to live, work and do business.

“I am honored to have the support of these job creators and their members behind my campaign, and I look forward to fighting with them to implement policies that spur job creation and economic growth in California and around the United States,” said Fiorina. “Under the leadership of career politicians like Barbara Boxer, we have made it harder – not easier – for companies to grow, succeed and hire Americans. That’s a record of failure we reject today. If we are serious about growing our economy and creating jobs, then we must send new leadership to the U.S. Senate, and that begins by replacing Barbara Boxer this November.”

Fiorina’s economic growth plan focuses on unleashing the talents and energies of California’s workers, small-business owners, innovators and entrepreneurs by getting government out of the way and reducing uncertainty that is inevitably caused by intrusive and over-reaching government regulatory policies. Fiorina today also earned the endorsement of the Long Beach Chamber of Commerce and the Fresno Chamber of Commerce.

Boxer’s “Stimulus”: Nothing But An Empty Lot

Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010

Carly Fiorina Issues Statement in Response to Coburn McCain Report on Stimulus Waste

SACRAMENTO, CA - U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina today made the following statement in response to the recently released Coburn McCain report outlining 100 "stimulus" projects that have been a deplorable use of taxpayer money and, in many cases, not only failed to create jobs but have actually eliminated jobs:

"As the economy has slowed, consumer spending has fallen flat and unemployment sits at record highs, Barbara Boxer has the audacity to continue to look Californians in the eye and claim the stimulus is working. There's no doubt the $862 billion taxpayer-funded stimulus package has failed to deliver the jobs Barbara Boxer promised it would; today, we're learning even more about the egregious spending authorized under the plan.

"A full $308 million in our tax dollars are going to a BP-owned company to build a plant that has yet to break ground. Another $2 million has been allocated to photograph exotic ants in San Francisco. Boeing – who is now taking their business and jobs to Oklahoma because of the high cost of doing business in California – received a 'no-bid contract worth nearly $16 million in stimulus money to clean up a California site it helped pollute.' That's not to mention more than $100,000 in funding for a building that, at this point, is nothing but an empty lot. Unfortunately, this kind of ridiculous use of taxpayer dollars is an all too common occurrence in Washington, yet Barbara Boxer continues to cast votes to perpetuate this system and pay for it with higher taxes. Californians deserve better. As your senator, I will stand up and be held accountable to deliver on policies that encourage real job creation, not produce empty lots and pictures of ants."

*CA Stimulus Project: Picture of "Progress" to Lifelong Politician Barbara Boxer

WASTEFUL CALIFORNIA STIMULUS PROJECTS

A Sampling Of The Wasteful California Projects Identified In The McCain-Coburn Stimulus Book:


In San Francisco, The California Academy Of Science Will Receive Nearly $2 Million To "Capture, Photograph, And Analyze Thousands Of Exotic Ants." "Ants Talk. Taxpayers Listen (San Francisco, CA) - $1.9 million … The California Academy of Sciences is receiving nearly $2 million to send researchers to the Southwest Indian Ocean Islands and east Africa, to capture, photograph, and analyze thousands of exotic ants. The photographs of the ants – over 3,000 species' worth, according to the grant proposal – will be posted on AntWeb, a website devoted to organizing and displaying pictures and information on the world's thousands of ant species." ("Summertime Blues," Offices Of Sen. Tom Coburn And Sen. John McCain, 8/10)

In Kern County, BP-Owned Hydrogen Energy California Was Awarded $308 Million For The Construction Of A Power Plant In December 2011. "Power Plant Construction Won't Start for at Least Two Years (Kern County, CA) - $308 million … BP may have found itself staring down huge financial losses over the past several months, but executives can take solace knowing that a stimulus windfall will help offset them. On September 28, 2009, Hydrogen Energy California, LLC (HECA), owned largely by BP, was awarded $308 million in stimulus funds to 'generate more environmentally friendly electricity by capturing carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels.' HECA is a joint venture of BP Alternative Energy North America and Rio Tinto subsidiaries. Stimulus funds 'enabled continued development of the HECA project which otherwise would have been cancelled.' Construction is not expected to begin until December 2011, nearly three years after the passage of the Recovery Act, raising serious questions about whether it is anywhere near 'shovel-ready.'" ("Summertime Blues," Offices Of Sen. Tom Coburn And Sen. John McCain, 8/10)

In Simi Valley, Boeing Received A "No-Bid Contract Worth Nearly $16 Million In Stimulus Money To Clean Up A California Site It Helped Pollute." "Firm Gets No-Bid Environmental Cleanup Contract – for a Mess It Helped Make (Simi Valley, CA) - $15.8 million … It's the 'Pottery Barn' rule in reverse: you break it, you get paid for it. Aerospace giant Boeing received a no-bid contract worth nearly $16 million in stimulus money to clean up a California site it helped pollute. The facility, the Santa Susana Field Laboratory, was built in the 1940s, and has been used for engine testing and nuclear power work; Boeing has owned it since 1996. In 2007, local authorities fined Boeing $471,000 for dozens of pollution violations at the site, which poisoned wastewater and storm runoff that ended up in the Los Angeles River." ("Summertime Blues," Offices Of Sen. Tom Coburn And Sen. John McCain, 8/10)

*In Glendale, New Horizons Family Center Received A $131,000 Grant For The Construction Of A Low-Income Child Care Facility That Has Already Suffered Years Of Delays And Has Not Begun Construction. "Youth Center Awarded Grant May Not Get Built (Glendale, CA) - $131,000 … 'You're all going to be wearing hard hats in April,' Maria Rochart, executive director of New Horizons Family Center, declared in March about the impending construction on New Horizons Family Center's child-care facilities. Today, the project does not appear any closer to starting. Nearly a year ago, New Horizons was awarded $131,000 in grant funding for the construction of a new facility to care for low-income kids after school. According to the Glendale News-Press, 'Construction on New Horizons Family Center's long-awaited 'Children's Village Nuestra Casa' was to begin last spring after years of delays and hundreds of thousands in government funding. But months after the nonprofit's founder told city commissioners the project was about to break ground, the lot on the 1200 block of South Maryland Avenue sits unchanged.'" ("Summertime Blues," Offices Of Sen. Tom Coburn And Sen. John McCain, 8/10)

Carly Fiorina Hosts Roundtable With Bay Area Businesswomen

Tuesday, July 20th, 2010

Discusses Job Creation in Seventh Statewide Jobs Tour Stop

LOS ALTOS, CA - U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina today hosted a roundtable with Bay Area businesswomen at Main Street Cafe and Books in Los Altos to discuss the impact job losses and a lagging economy have had on their families, businesses and communities.

“California’s unemployment rate is among the worst in the nation, and more than 2 million of our fellow Californians remain out of work – underscoring the abject failure of Barbara Boxer’s big-government policies to create the jobs she promised,” said Fiorina. “Boxer’s ‘solution’ to our unemployment crisis is to further burden taxpayers to fund more growth in government. This view is dangerous for the long-term health of our economy, and it is both unsustainable and unworkable if our goal is real growth.”

Today’s roundtable was the seventh stop on Fiorina’s ongoing statewide jobs tour, during which she has highlighted the devastating effects of the job-killing policies Barbara Boxer has supported over the course of her 28 years in Washington. Fiorina has thus far visited San Diego, Clovis, Sacramento, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Marina Del Rey. She will continue traveling to communities around the state presenting to voters her own economic growth plan, which focuses on supporting job creation through tax cuts, less regulation and government policies that support small businesses, innovators and entrepreneurs.

“California’s small-business owners, innovators and entrepreneurs are the engines of growth in our economy and the lifeblood of our country. If our leaders in Washington are serious about supporting economic recovery, then they must be committed to implementing policies that give these job creators a boost, not get in their way,” Fiorina continued. “Californians are tired of career politicians like Barbara Boxer who continually demonstrate their unwillingness to support real job creation, and that’s why the voters of this state will fire her this November.”

Carly Fiorina Issues Statement on California Unemployment Rate

Friday, July 16th, 2010

SACRAMENTO, CA - U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina today issued the following statement regarding the report released by the California Employment Development Department this morning showing that 27,600 Californians lost their jobs last month, while the private sector added only 1,300 jobs:

“The news today that 27,600 Californians lost their jobs and private-sector job growth remained extremely weak last month underscores the fact that big-government policies that depend on temporary, taxpayer-funded government jobs will not provide the foundation of growth we need in order to experience a true economic recovery. Still, Barbara Boxer and her fellow Democrats in Congress continue to press for the budget-busting entitlements, job-killing regulations and higher taxes that drive jobs out of state. As a result, 2.24 million Californians remain unemployed today, and 13 of the top 20 most stressed counties in the nation are right here in California. Only an out-of-touch career politician like Barbara Boxer could witness such a crisis of joblessness and declare victory; it’s clear she’s interested in only one job in California: her own. That’s why I am running to replace her this November.

“Instead, our focus must be on implementing policies that are oriented to support private-sector job growth. That means cutting taxes and cutting through the thicket of regulation that prevents California companies from growing and hiring more employees.”

Carly Fiorina Brings Statewide Jobs Tour to Los Angeles

Friday, July 16th, 2010

MARINA DEL REY, CA - U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina was today joined by former Secretary of Commerce and former Kellogg Company Chief Executive Officer Carlos Gutierrez to host a press conference at Patty’s Presto Pizza in Marina Del Rey on the sixth stop of Fiorina’s statewide jobs tour.

“Our nation is in the midst of a terrible economic and political crisis – a fact only further underscored by the jobs numbers released this morning. We desperately need leaders in the U.S. Senate who will prioritize the issues most important to our fellow Californians, and that means pushing for real jobs and a sustainable economic recovery,” said Gutierrez. “Carly’s economic growth plan focuses on the policies we must have implemented in order to ensure a strong economic future, and that’s why we need her fighting for us in the U.S. Senate.”

Gutierrez currently serves as national co-chairman of the Business Coalition 100, a bipartisan coalition of more than 100 current and former business leaders in California and across the nation supporting Fiorina’s campaign to defeat Barbara Boxer. Also joining Fiorina at the press conference today were Patty’s Presto Pizza Owner Patty Phillips, 720CreditScore.com Owner Philip Tirone and Westway Electric Systems President and Associated Building and Contractors representative Chris Lang.

“Today we received the disappointing news that 27,600 Californians lost their jobs last month – further proof that temporary government jobs do not provide the foundation of growth we need in order to experience a true economic recovery. Sadly, this is only the latest in a string of disappointing reports we have received about the state of our economy over the last several months,” said Fiorina. “Despite the fact that Californians are staring 12.3 percent unemployment in the face, Barbara Boxer continually refuses to implement the pragmatic policies we need in order support the small-businesses and entrepreneurs who will help create jobs and grow the economy. That’s why I am running to replace her this November.”

Fiorina kicked off her statewide jobs tour in San Diego last month to highlight the devastating effects of the job-killing policies Barbara Boxer has supported over the course of her 28 years in Washington. Since then, Fiorina has brought her statewide jobs tour to Clovis, Sacramento, Beverly Hills and San Francisco to lay out the ideas in her economic growth plan designed to support real job creation through tax cuts, less regulation and government policies that support small businesses, innovators and entrepreneurs.

FACT CHECK: Boxer Exaggerates Job Creation Claims

Wednesday, July 7th, 2010

SACRAMENTO, CA – Carly for California Deputy Campaign Manager for Communications Julie Soderlund today issued the following statement regarding Barbara Boxer’s claim about the jobs created by stimulus funds for the Doyle Drive project, which Recovery.gov shows has created only 0.19 jobs:


“Barbara Boxer’s gross exaggeration about the jobs created by the Doyle Drive project is yet another example of her ongoing attempt to re-write the facts about her record and pretend she has actually accomplished something for the people of California. With little to show for her 28 years in Washington, Boxer is clearly grasping for straws when it comes to proving that she is fighting for jobs. Unfortunately, the facts and figures are not her friends. Barbara Boxer promised the stimulus plan would yield 400,000 jobs for the people of California. But, in fact, more than 400,000 more people are unemployed today than were unemployed when the plan passed in February 2009.


“The people of California don’t want any more broken promises; they want jobs. But Barbara Boxer has consistently proven that she can’t – or won’t – deliver them, and that’s why voters will fire her this November.”


CLAIM


Boxer Says Stimulus Package Put People Back To Work At Doyle Drive. “Doyle Drive provides direct access to the Golden Gate Bridge, and carries more than 100,000 commuters each weekday. The road has deteriorated since its construction in 1936, and is being replaced in a project that is expected to wrap up in 2013. Boxer called the project ‘the biggest job construction site in the Bay Area,’ and an example of how ‘we’re putting people back to work … and we’re doing it all over the state.’” (Bay City News, “Sen. Boxer visits Doyle Drive project, touts efforts to bring jobs to state,” Bay City News Via San Francisco Examiner, 7/6/10)


FACT


Project Title: DOYLE DRIVE – In San Francisco at Doyle Drive (Partial).

Contract #4 – SB Battery Tunnel, at-grade

Total Award Amount: $122,063,420

Jobs Created: 0.19

Description of Jobs Created: Jobs are created or retained in the construction and construction management industry such as laborers, equipment operators, electricians, project managers, support staff, inspectors, engineers, etc. (Source: Recovery.com, Award Number Q101153, Accessed 7/7/10)

Carly Fiorina Issues Statement on Unemployment Rate

Friday, July 2nd, 2010

SACRAMENTO, CA – U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina today issued the following statement in response to the Bureau of Labor Statistics report released this morning showing that the economy shed 125,000 jobs in May:

“The loss of 125,000 jobs last month and the less-than-robust growth in private-sector hiring together underscore the fact that the economic ‘stimulus’ plan championed by Democrats like Barbara Boxer has not delivered on its fundamental promise: creating jobs. And though the downtick in the unemployment rate represents a step in the right direction, it occurred as the result of a shrinking labor force – not because of real gains in employment. In fact, our country has lost 7.9 million private-sector jobs since the start of the recession in December 2007.

“Much like we’re seeing in the housing sector, today’s jobs report highlights the fact that big-government policies do not stimulate the kind of sustained, long-term growth our economy needs in order to experience a real recovery. Yet Barbara Boxer continues to help take our nation down the path toward economic stagnation by insisting on pursuing these wrongheaded policies.

“Barbara Boxer promised the people of California ‘help and hope,’ but we have gotten neither. Instead, we have gotten higher taxes, higher debt and a higher deficit. This is completely unacceptable, and it is clearly time for her to go.”

Small Business Leader Issues Statement on Sen. Boxer’s Failure to Get Credit to Small Business

Friday, June 25th, 2010

SACRAMENTO, CA – Former community banker and small business mentor Roger Hart today issued the following statement regarding Senator Barbara Boxer’s failure to stand up for small business and community banks.

“During the last year or so, Senator Barbara Boxer has had many opportunities to stand up for small businesses and the community banks that support small business growth, but she has failed to do so. Her vote for the bank bailouts was supposed to help get credit flowing again, but other than a few select Wall Street banks, this effort has obviously failed to achieve that goal. Likewise, the economic stimulus plan she championed was laden with pork and did little to address the core problem: a frozen credit market.

“Reasonable access to capital is the primary issue for small business. Currently, small businesses are unable to obtain financing as their community banks continue to struggle. As seen by the increase in unemployment since the plan’s passage, it’s clear government programs have been ineffective in supporting the small businesses that actually create jobs. And last month, Senator Boxer voted for a financial reform bill that would have subjected community banks to many of the same restrictions imposed on large Wall Street banks-despite the fact that community banks were neither to blame for our financial crisis, nor can they afford the cost of compliance with these massive new regulations. That Barbara Boxer is in Los Angeles today, talking about her efforts to support these entities is just another example of election-year rhetoric and hollow words.”

Roger Hart is a native Californian, with a career as a business loan officer over the last 29 years for several California banks, both large and small. He currently works in economic development and small business mentoring in the Sacramento Valley region.



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